Stop Pretending Hillary Isn’t Terrible

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5 Responses

  1. ron says:

    Why, really, do you think she’s so terrible? I mean, I hear people say this and I’m not seeing her as much different that any other career politician. Definitely shows different faces depending on the audience. Sure, politician. Has a history of decisions that people don’t agree with. Politician. But why SOO much (in my perception) fairly unmotivated animosity?

  2. Hokie says:

    @ron, she is going to greatly expand our involvement in the Syrian War and our insane confrontation with Russia, thus making her every bit as bad as John McCain and George Bush. Trump is terrible, but at least he is pretty anti-war and says we should get along with Assad and Putin.

  3. Scott says:

    As a fellow Washington state voter, realize that our votes mean nothing in determining the next President. Washington’s electoral college votes will go to the Democrat, period. Whether the battleground states vote R or D is out of our control.

    But there is one way our votes can make a difference. The national vote totals determine which parties receive federal election funds. Right now, that’s only the Rs and Ds, but Gary Johnson has an opportunity to change that. If he gets 5% of the national vote, it could make a difference in 2020. Stein, Castle and McMullin can’t do it; they’ll be lucky to get 1% each. But Johnson has a real chance of hitting 5%. He can make it happen.

    Now maybe you think it won’t matter because the Libertarians will never win anyway. But having a strong third party will reinvigorate our democracy and force the Rs and Ds to address Libertarian ideals of individual freedom, lower taxes, lower regulation. Maybe you’re hesitant because you don’t like Johnson himself. I don’t blame you, but remember, he’s not going to win anyway. This isn’t about him, this is about forging a third way for a two-party democracy that has left us behind.

    Voting for Johnson can help create that third way. Voting for Trump or Clinton in a deep blue state like Washington is simply meaningless and has no chance of affecting the electoral college. Voting for Johnson is the only way our votes can make a difference.

  4. ron says:

    Thanks, @Hokie, for a thoughtful response. Although, personally, I think the chances of Hillary pushing things too far isn’t all that high at least I can understand the concern. Appreciate a counter opinion that’s not just the empty talking points I hear so often when I ask pro-Trump people why they hate Hillary so much.

    @scott – I agree it’s a reasonable tack to take in this scenario. The two-party system isn’t helping much at this point, even moreso in congress where party alliances (on either side) seem to prevent the chance of progress more often than not.

  5. Trumpland says:

    Politifact NOT unfair to republicans. Simply fact checking specific statements each time they are made. Example: Trump claimed voter fraud in various ways in DIFFERENT statements. Politifact checked each DIFFERENT statement. Are you suggesting Politifact should check one statement on a particular subject and disregard the rest of them? That would be remiss. Trump and anyone else could easily eliminate this perceived problem by not doubling down on statements that are factually incorrect.

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